Clare Tubolets joins me this month of the podcast, discussing innovation in the world of concrete and construction. I have gotten to know Clare through the Cooperative Research Centre National Innovation Policy Forum and was keen to explore some of the opportunities and challenges in building and construction.
I had the great privilege to have Steve Weiss join me on the podcast this month. Steve Weiss, CEO and co-founder of Grey Heron, and a member of Jim Lane’s notorious ‘Due Diligence Wolfpack’, shares key lessons in building commercial traction, securing investors and more. Building on themes that we have explored previously with Paul Bryan, Roger Wyse, Andy Shafer and Jim Lane, Steve also shares insights into how to get deals done.
This month it was a great pleasure to reconnect with Peter Tregear, both school and college colleague, to explore the world of innovation and in turn technology transfer in music. This was a thoroughly engaging discussion for me, with my less than amateur music knowledge and skills being rekindled, and perhaps reimagined, as Peter took us from Sumer to synthesised music. It also took me back to some of our more profound discussions on theological and indigenous concepts of tech transfer with John Bloomer and Chris Matthews respectively.
I had the opportunity to unpack the NorVic Foods ecosystem with Lisa Birrell (who was CEO) and Greg Harper (who drove the genesis of the initiative). With the ongoing conversations in Australia around innovation ecosystems (which we have had with John Howard), the need for better industry engagement (which we have had most recently with Jane Fitzpatrick) and the challenges of building regional ag innovation systems (discussed sometime back with Elena Kelavra), this presented as a coming together of these threads.
In our first joint podcast, I joined Victoria Meyer and The Chemical Show to explore technology transfer and innovation in the chemical industry. The chemical industry is where I got my start, with Dow Chemical and subsequently Akzo Nobel, and I have maintained my deep interest in and passion for the sector over the years. The opportunity to continue this through the biobased economy, industrial and agricultural biotech, made for a really contrasting foundation to Victoria’s journey in petrochemicals at Shell, Amoco, Lyondell Basell and Clariant.
I got asked a really fundamental question being ‘what is tech transfer’ and from there, we started to explore productisation, the challenges of valuation and risk, and the need to demonstrate products and the ability to scale.
I had the chance to catch up with Dennis Voznesenski, who hosts a regular Commonwealth Bank Agri Podcast. Dennis is an Agricultural Economist and author of War and Wheat: navigating markets during global conflict and is a frequent commentator on Australian agricultural markets and dynamics. With a general sense in Australia that we struggle for demand side innovation, I felt a conversation with Dennis who is focussed on industry would make for an interesting set of perspectives.
Dennis shared insights on the current challenges facing Australian farmers, particularly regarding rising costs of fuel and fertiliser due to global events. It was interesting that he framed the innovation opportunity around cost of production as he described Australian farmers as price takers and as such, this is what they could control.
I had the chance to follow up with Jane Fitzpatrick on her powerful closing remarks at a panel session at the National Innovation Policy Forum last year. Jane is CEO of the Australian National Fabrication Facility, and her organisation sits at the intersection of science, innovation, translation and market pull. Given the challenges we’ve been highlighting on the podcast around the industry pull, and the recent Strategic Examination of R&D (SERD) report, Ambitious Australia, it seemed a great time to build on her comments last year.
We opened a little unusually, in that we started where we left off from Podcast 55 (2025 National Innovation Policy Forum Review: Coordination and Translation) with Jane O’Dwyer, revisiting Jane’s compelling observations around skills and experiences for tech transfer, and how these contrast with the training and, at times, interests of researchers. It was interesting to hear how ANFF had sought to build on the engagement with its client base and ecosystem, seeking to provide tech transfer support.
I had the great pleasure of catching up with Jarett Abramson, who was ‘between gigs’ since his departure from Provivi and his imminent (and arguably eminent) commencement at BASF in Europe.
The journey started for Jarett with writing patents on cranberry juice extract and we explored how that path to market unfolded. In his private practice, he found himself working across a number of industry sectors, but fate kept bringing him back to the ag industry. When moving from the private firm to private sector (being initially Dow Pharma then Dow Agrosciences, the latter now part of Corteva Agriscience), he reflected on the change in culture.
In our annual podcast leading into Science Meets Parliament, we had the opportunity to discuss innovation, tech transfer and research translation with Jasmine Chambers, Science & Technology Australia President and Professor Stephen Rodda, Pro-Vice Chancellor (Industry & Innovation) at UNSW.